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October 19, 2018
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I'm reconciling an account that has not been reconciled in over 2 years. It'd be impossible to track down every transaction. Is reconciliations discrepancy account okay?

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After trying to go back and reconcile the accounts, we've found that it's going to be impossible to match every deposit or payment to each invoice or bill. The end of year discrepancy is about $16,000.00 and we've already filed our taxes (start up company with a huge loss, filing an amendment would show an even bigger loss). The thought right now is to use an "Other Expenses Account" titled something along  the lines of "Legacy Finance Adjustment", we'd post each months discrepancy against this account so things balance out. Thus it wouldn't affect our tax reporting, but it would at least get our books in better shape and allow for a reconciliation match....Is this a viable solution? It seems like the only one.

Best answer by john-pero

It is not impossible to track down every transaction. Time consuming, yes, but never impossible.

You either spent $16,000 more than you recorded or recorded that much more in income. If it is outflow it should not be that difficult to match up for month 1 the transactions in QuickBooks against the statement. What is left are the items to add. You can get images from the bank for checks you did not enter to enter them now with their correct date. Then month 2, leave uncleared as uncleared and clear the added items that are on the statement.

If you showed too much in deposits you just don't clear the ones not on the statement. Or edit each deposit to be correct. If you posted, say deposits in month 1 of $90000 but it was only $85000 Then however the deposit was classified made your book balance higher and that is where you adjust.Once you get through to fiscal year end you can make an adjusting expense for that year.

Your tax CPA can tell you if amending returns is even financially prudent. If they charge more than the tax savings it isn't worth it. You can go back 3 years, I believe, and certain losses can be carried forward

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john-pero
john-peroAnswer
October 19, 2018

It is not impossible to track down every transaction. Time consuming, yes, but never impossible.

You either spent $16,000 more than you recorded or recorded that much more in income. If it is outflow it should not be that difficult to match up for month 1 the transactions in QuickBooks against the statement. What is left are the items to add. You can get images from the bank for checks you did not enter to enter them now with their correct date. Then month 2, leave uncleared as uncleared and clear the added items that are on the statement.

If you showed too much in deposits you just don't clear the ones not on the statement. Or edit each deposit to be correct. If you posted, say deposits in month 1 of $90000 but it was only $85000 Then however the deposit was classified made your book balance higher and that is where you adjust.Once you get through to fiscal year end you can make an adjusting expense for that year.

Your tax CPA can tell you if amending returns is even financially prudent. If they charge more than the tax savings it isn't worth it. You can go back 3 years, I believe, and certain losses can be carried forward

June 3, 2019

 John you seem to be the guy who can answer my questions. I don't have a vast knowledge in this. Maybe you can help? Our quickbooks hasn't been reconciled in 2 years. transactions have been matched and checked but not reconciled. Should we go back, "uncheck" all transactions and reconcile one month at a time as if it were the current month? Thank you

Rustler
October 19, 2018

I agree with John, one bank statement at a time, each month.  Trying to shortcut things with the IRS and with your books is not the way to start out, or even continue for that matter

When you reconcile, and tell QB to make an adjustment, QB creates an expense account titled reconciliation discrepancy and posts the adjustment to that.

June 3, 2019

Rustler, for a similar mistake. transactions matched and checked but not completed reconciliation do you recommend "unchecking" all transactions and match and check each and everyone and reconciling each month as if it were the current one?

June 3, 2019

Thanks for joining the thread, @Spring Valley.

 

You can consider unchecking/unclear all transactions and reconcile it by month. Let me walk you through the steps on how unclear transactions.

 

If your books haven't closed yet, you can manually unclear the transactions. Here's how:

 

  1. From the left panel, click Accounting.
  2. Select Chart of Accounts.
  3. Find the appropriate bank, then click View register.
  4. Select the transaction to edit.
  5. Under Check column, click the box repeatedly to change the status to "Blank". ("C" - Cleared, "R" - Reconciled, and "Blank" - Not cleared or reconciled)
  6. Click Save.

You can read through this article for your reference: How to Unreconcile a Transaction or Undo a Reconciliation.

 

Once done, you can now start reconciling the transactions by month.

 

Also, I still encourage seeking help from your accountant. He/she could guide you which option to take based on your recording practice and business needs.

 

If you have any other concerns, feel free to leave a comment below. Have a great day.

October 19, 2018

For a large corporation $16k is not material. For a small business it is.  If you believe the amount is material and that the business will eventually be profitable, then it would be to your benefit to file an amendment and get an even bigger loss to use against future profits.  If you do that, you should be able to justify the expense though, so you would really need to sort out the mess.

July 24, 2019

It's good to hear you in this thread, Linguine43.

 

It looks like you've created a separate thread with the same question. One of my colleagues has already shared steps on how to resolve  update errors and ho to open the 941 Form.

 

Here's the link: https://quickbooks.intuit.com/learn-support/en-us/employees-and-payroll/quick-books-pay-roll-up-date-down-load-did-not-work-i-was-trying/01/347902

 

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