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October 3, 2023
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cannot create recurring transactions in the new customer invoicing experience

  • October 3, 2023
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I have been using Recurring Transactions for many years. After I entered a transaction, I could create a recurring transaction from it. I save an enormous amount of valuable time with recurring transactions.

 

And every time I created, edited and saved a new transaction from the recurring transaction template, QuickBooks Online (QBO) asked me if I want to update the template to reflect my changes. It was tedious to be asked constantly, but now that I can’t use it, boy, do I miss it.

 

I recently migrated a new bookkeeping client from QuickBooks Desktop to QBO. Without being asked, I was forced to be in “the new experience” for customer invoicing. I could go on for hours with how bad this experience is, but the grievous sin is that I can no longer create recurring transactions or update recurring transactions.

 

These Support pages say I can create a recurring invoice from an existing invoice by opening the existing invoice, clicking on Automation on the right, and clicking on Recurring Invoice. But that doesn’t make the existing invoice be recurring, doesn’t create a template identical to the invoice I have open. No, it takes me to a screen where I can create entirely from scratch an invoice, then save it as recurring. Guess what, I just spent a lot of time creating the invoice I wanted, and I want that one to be the recurring transaction. I was able to do this in “the old experience,” I’ve been doing it for years.

 

And if I create an invoice from a recurring transaction and change it in a way that I will want to use again, that I want saved as the existing recurring template, too bad, it does not ask me if I want to save the changes to the template.

 

I have to keep a separate log of all the invoices where the recurring invoice template is partially incorrect or a recurring transaction doesn’t exist. I have to keep track of how I need to change the invoice created from the partially incorrect recurring transaction, or I have to copy the previous invoice that was unable to be made into a recurring transaction. Have I already said how valuable my time is?

 

Here are two more complaints about the new customer invoicing experience.

 

One, the invoice total does not appear anywhere on the screen as I am creating the invoice, I cannot see the total without saving the invoice and creating a PDF of it. Who creates customer invoices without being able to see the invoice total?

 

Two, if I am editing an invoice I created from a recurring transaction and I need to add a line, I cannot insert a row as I could in the old experience. No, I have to add the new line at the bottom, or else re-create all the lines I wanted moved down so I can put the new line higher up on the invoice.

 

Why do I not revert my customer invoicing back to the old experience? Because I’ve been using QuickBooks Online for ten years and I am wise to Intuit’s ways: I feel certain that the new experience will soon become required for all users, and telephone support people have agreed with me on that. I suspect I need to master it now, and it may be the most frustrating, time-wasting thing I’ve experienced in ten years of QBO.

 

I don’t think I had any complaints about the old customer invoicing and certainly not about recurring transactions. Either I am missing a huge volume of credible complaints that other users made about the old customer invoicing experience or Intuit is fixing something that isn’t broken and is rolling the changes out before they are fully functional.

4 replies

October 3, 2023

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feedback regarding the new customer invoicing experience. I understand your concerns and see that this has a significant impact on your workflow and efficiency.
 

Please consider sending your experience to your product developer and share your suggestion to them. By sharing your specific issues and suggestions, you can help the development team understand the impact of the changes and provide insights for potential improvements. 

 

  1. Go to the Gear icon.
  2. Select Feedback under Profile.
  3. Enter your suggestion. Then, click Next.

 

Additionally, there's an ongoing issue about recurring invoice templates for invoices that aren't being automatically created when set to scheduled. If you're facing the same scenario, please be informed that this has been raised to our investigation team to look into further for you. 

 

To add you to the lists of affected users, please contact our Support Team. You can provide this investigation number: INV-92256. Within your QBO account, go to Help in the upper-right corner.

 

  1. In the Search tab, click Contact us.
  2. Enter a brief description of your concern.
  3. Click Continue.

 

 

Stay in touch if you have more concerns about QuickBooks. We always want to hear from you.

November 3, 2023

One month after I posted this on 10/2/23, the problem isn’t fixed. And I haven’t been waiting a month, I’ve been waiting since I migrated my client from QuickBooks Desktop to QuickBooks Online in late June 2023 and was involuntarily assigned the “new customer invoicing experience.”

 

And remember, it’s not just that I cannot create a new invoice template (“recurring transaction”), but the templates that migrated over from QB Desktop cannot be updated and saved. Let’s say I’m billing a series of five identical fees. The first invoice says, “Fee 1 of 5,” the second says, “Fee 2 of 5” but I cannot save the new wording so that I will know which was the last one I billed next time I use the template. I have to keep track separately where I am in the series. Of course, I already keep a list of all invoice numbers I use because QB Online does a terrible job of assigning invoice numbers, and I have not found where you can put it back on track when it’s out of sequence the way you could in QB Desktop.

 

Because vendor bill entry hasn’t been given a “new experience,” when I save a vendor bill I created from a template, I am asked if I want to update the recurring template to reflect the changes just entered. As it should do. As customer invoice templates used to do.

 

Why would Intuit roll out a change (an “improvement”?) when it doesn’t do some really basic things that the predecessor version did?

 

To Intuit’s credit, I have noticed something that has changed/been fixed, something that was badly needed. Either Intuit fixed it or I just found out how to turn it on; I cannot find again where I was to make this change. It used to be that the invoice did not display on the screen the invoice total as you were creating the invoice. Who doesn’t want to know the invoice total as you’re creating the invoice? This seems insanely obvious. Instead, I had to print the invoice to PDF to see the total, there’s no way to get it to appear. Recently, I got it to show the total on the screen. Again, why would Intuit release an “improvement” that didn’t do what is basic and obvious and that the previous version did?

 

And as predicted in my previous post, this seriously flawed “new customer invoicing experience” has become standard: “Recently, we gave people the opportunity to try out our new estimate and invoice layout for QuickBooks Online. The new layout offers access to the latest innovations, more automation tools, an ability to preview what a customer sees—and more. We’re pleased to announce that this layout will be available to everyone, starting with QuickBooks Simple Start in October.”

December 18, 2023

I'm also having this issue and it's enough to make me stop using QBO.

 

When I create an invoice it forces me into using the new invoicing experience.  OK fine.

 

But where are my SHIP DATE, TRACKING NUMBER fields?  I had to add a custom field for Tracking Number but I can't use the drop down SHIP DATE calendar to select 12/18/2023 as ship date.

 

When I ship something, I automatically need to create a recurring invoice in 1 year from the ship date to pay for the subscription they ordered.  If I click on recurring invoice under the AUTOMATION tab, it doesn't copy anything over so I need to create a new invoice from scratch.  But the recurring template is the OLD invoice template that I need back.

 

Customer service doesn't seem to understand this.  They also seem to love rolling out "new features" without ensuring that the new experience is a good one.  They need to fix this or I am out.

 

June 27, 2024

As you predicted, it of course became the required only option for creating invoices.  Yet 7 months after your post when they made the forced permanent change, and now another 2 months after that, they still have not resolved this issue.  Sending feedback never seems to actually do anything since they just keep rolling out half-baked replacements for stuff that had been working fine before that, and taking years to add back the missing functionality if they ever even do at all.  If QuickBooks wants to revamp a feature, they need to make sure it does AT LEAST everything the existing feature is able to do before forcing it upon their customers, and ideally more than that so the customers actually look forward to the changes instead of fearing them.  Yet I think every one of their forced changes that I've experienced has actually removed functionality.

December 5, 2024

I FOUND IT - it's there but NOT INTUITIVE (pun unintended)

If you are in the new invoice format, go to "manage" then under "scheduling" the option to make recurring and the associated pieces are there. Hopefully you can see the image attached.

 
 

 

July 11, 2024

I FIGURED IT OUT

 

For me it was happening because I could not see the Product/Service column in the table when trying to create a recurring transaction template. I imagine the hidden error was something like "put in a product/service" but it wasn't visible because the column wasn't. To fix:

 

1. Go to the gear in QB, under Your Company select Account and settings.

2. On the Sales tab at left, make sure "Show Product/Service column on sales forms" is on.

3. Try again.

 

I tried everything else listed here about clearing cache and incognito browser. This was the only thing that worked. Good luck.

 

QB - now that a retired QA engineer has found the bug, tell your engineers to fix this.

December 5, 2024

I FINALLY FOUND IT -

If you have not completely given up by now, there actually is a way to do it but it is a bit convoluted - 

In the new version there is an option to MANAGE and under that an option for SCHEDULING where you will see the opportunity to select MAKE RECURRING and all of the options for setting that up.