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Mar 24, 2021 11:47 AM UTC
Question

Post Brexit VAT codes and entry

Confused about post Brexit VAT codes and entries... QB Desktop Premier 2021. 

 

We have imported goods from USA for years - the supplier invoice is entered (in US$) with VAT code E (0%). We pay VAT and duty to air air shipper on arrival - VAT amount gets posted to box 4 . 

We claim back in VAT return. 

Net Zero.

Nice and simple. 

 

Post Brexit - I had assumed goods coming in from EU would be treated the same way - but so far we have not been presented with any VAT bills on arrival.  I assume all the importers assume we want to do the postponed VAT thing (I would rather not thanks).

I am entering my suppliers bills also as VAT code E (0%). 

So purchase value is recorded in total net purchase value on VAT return - box 7. 

But nothing in any other boxes. 

 

Now I got (2 months after it arrived) a document today from FedEx for the VAT value on one shipment from France - nothing to pay but presumably I have to account for this?

 

Seems all rather pointless... I have to put this VAT amount so its recorded in boxes 1 and 4 - so just cancels itself out... Cant I simply ignore doing this ?!! 

 

If I have to record it - how ??

7 replies

Mar 24, 2021 1:39 PM UTC

Hello Skinnerneil, What boxes are you wanting to hit? If you do not feel the post VAT accounting applies you could maybe use a reverse charge code , though that would hit boxes 1 and 4, it may be worth confirming with an accountant or HMRC for guidance on which is the best code for you to use.

Mar 25, 2021 12:45 PM UTC

A specific example raised itself today.

 

We have a shipment of products just arrived in from France.

Supplier invoices total € 45926.04.  I have entered into QB using code E (0% VAT).

That value is entered only onto VAT box 7 on QB (converted to sterling) - total net value of purchases.

 

Our importer did the paperwork for clearance - VAT to pay was £ 7943.88.  But this value is IMMEDIATELY offset under the postponed VAT system by the same value credited back (all linked to our EORI number apparently).  So net zero VAT.  Goods arrived . Nothing to pay.

 

The official HMRC advice is here - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/complete-your-vat-return-to-account-for-import-vat

 

That says the VAT figure should be entered into Box 1 (sales VAT) and box 4 (purchase VAT). 

Thus cancelling each other out.

 

My point is how do I enter this ?  I do not have a bill ??  Journal entry ??

Mar 25, 2021 2:11 PM UTC

Hello Skinnerneil, You could enter as either, what happens when you use the reverse code does it not show as affecting the boxes as you want? we can take a look at this in more detail if you call us on 08081682535 and we can do a screen share with you.