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luzbeaty1
June 13, 2019
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Loan (Long term Liabilities) & principal payment

  • June 13, 2019
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Hello,

the company borrowed money from a personal bank acct., the money was transferred to the business bank account to cover business expenses, business purchase price etc.  (the accountant suggest to handle it using Long Term Liability account).

 

Borrow

 $                         441,800

from bank with  4.3% interest

Assets (cash)                                                                        +   441,800

(Pledged Asset Line CS) Long term Liabilities              +   441,800

 

Pay principal and interest from Loan:

Example Jun-19

Principal          (Pledged Asset Line CS) Long term Liabilities    -   14,000

 

Interest            Interest paid (Expense/Equity)                               -     1,500

 

                          Asset (Cash)                                                               -    15,500

 

1.  Considering that the deposit in the business checking account (visible in "Banking" tab in QB)of 441K was categorized in the account "Pledged Asset line CS" (Long term liability), will QuickBooks address the loan as I tried to picture it in the table above? 

 

2.  I understand that once a transfer is made to pay the loan (principal and interest) in the business checking account (banking), we will category it into “Interest paid” (expense) and “Pledged Asset line CS” (long term liability), as show up in the table above.

  2.1   We would like to confirm that once we start paying the Principal (categorizing the expense in Long term Liability account), it will decrease the Long Term Liability.

  2.2   We´ll make only ONE transfer with the total value, we will need to split it in QB using both categories/accounts “Interest paid” and “Long term liability)?

 

Thank you so much for your support!

      Best answer by john-pero

      When you record 2, the transfer, this should reflect the full payment due including both principal and interest. Line 1 of the detail of Check/Expense would be the account you have set up for the liability and line 2 is the interest you are being charged. I always like to record principal first. You can do either one first but I find on most of my loan statements that principal is recorded first even though the bank applies the payment against interest first - if that makes sense. Personal preference I guess for me.

       

      What I gather is you are now recording a bank to bank transfer from business to the shareholder? Skip that even if that is what happens and simply record the entire transaction as one. You can make the payment payable to the shareholder as a pass through if the loan is not in the name of the company but entering one transaction saves time and achieves same result.

       

      What you actually have in place is a shareholder loan to the S Corp funded by the shareholder privately borrowing and you are covering their payments or giving them the money to make their payments so in effect the transactions are all between the company and the shateholder

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      john-pero
      john-pero
      June 14, 2019

      Are you a C corporation or a multi shareholder S Corp? Is the private money from a shareholder or other member/owner of the company? Even a multi member LLC can borrow private money from one of the members and this is treated exactly as if it were borrowed from a real bank. What you described is the same as you would have done if the deposit you banking came from aoan at JPMorgan/Chase. So yes you have it correct. Principal portion of any loan payment as a line item is to the actual liability and reduces it accordingly

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        luzbeaty1Author
        June 14, 2019

        Hello @john-pero  thank you so much for replying and your help.

         

        The company is a S-Corporation. The money was borrow from a bank using the owner's personal bank account. An accountant suggested us to use "Long term liability" account. 

         

        Let me confirm that I understood correctly.

        1. What I described shows the loan deposit from a bank to JPMorgan/Chase bank account. It shows up correctly how it handled by  QB.

        2. Once I transfer the money from my Chase bank account to pay the principal, that transaction  will need to be categorized through the Banking page in  (Pledged Asset Line CS) Long term Liabilities, so the liability will be decreased. 

         

        Could you please help me with the 3rd question from my original post?

         

        Thank you so much and have a great day,

         

        LB

         

         

        john-pero
        john-peroAnswer
        June 14, 2019

        When you record 2, the transfer, this should reflect the full payment due including both principal and interest. Line 1 of the detail of Check/Expense would be the account you have set up for the liability and line 2 is the interest you are being charged. I always like to record principal first. You can do either one first but I find on most of my loan statements that principal is recorded first even though the bank applies the payment against interest first - if that makes sense. Personal preference I guess for me.

         

        What I gather is you are now recording a bank to bank transfer from business to the shareholder? Skip that even if that is what happens and simply record the entire transaction as one. You can make the payment payable to the shareholder as a pass through if the loan is not in the name of the company but entering one transaction saves time and achieves same result.

         

        What you actually have in place is a shareholder loan to the S Corp funded by the shareholder privately borrowing and you are covering their payments or giving them the money to make their payments so in effect the transactions are all between the company and the shateholder

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