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November 7, 2024
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Why the profit and loss report does not match with my sales and my bank statements

  • November 7, 2024
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Hello

Example:

If I open an Invoice on January 01 for $2000 total and with a $500 dollar deposit and Later in February 5 i get the remain $1500 payment the report shows : 

 

Profit and Loss report 

 JanuaryFebruary
Income20000

->When i really got $500 as a downpayment in January and $1500 in February. So for me will be great if my report shows 0 dollas in January and 2000 on February when the invoice was close. 

-> Somtime i have invoices open for 5 moths and i am having a lot of problems with this 

 

Other thing why quickbook always classifies the deposit transaction as undeposited funds?

 

I am a small business owner and i am trying to learn how to do it right.

Thank you in advance

2 replies

November 7, 2024

I know why the payments on your Profit and Loss (P&L) report don't match, @xhandllc. I'll lay down the details below.

 

Regardless of receiving a payment of $1,500 in February, the $2000 will still appear in January, the month you opened the invoice for a total of $2000 with a $500 deposit.

 

Transactions are recorded when they occur using the Accrual basis in your P&L report, showing $2,000 as income in January. In contrast, the Cash basis records income based on when cash is received.

 

By default, QuickBooks categorizes deposit transactions as Undeposited Funds, a temporary holding account until payments are deposited into the bank. You can transfer your funds by making a deposit or transferring it.

 

For future reference, here's an article on saving your report's customization settings: Memorize reports in QuickBooks Online.

 

You can post anytime if you still have queries about the P&L or other reports in QBO. Please know the Community has your back. Take care always.

xhandllcAuthor
November 10, 2024

Thank you for your answer . Now I know a litter more about the custom reports and how to classify my customers deposit. But i still trying to figure out how can get on my reports my real Income. I just wanna know if its possible to get the information in the way i see it right.

Example:

Invoice A for $2000 total with $500 downpayment

- $500 donwpayment received on January

- Job was done later in February while we were waiting for a permit.

-Final $1500 payment was received on  February when the job was done and completed.

Invoice B for $5000 total with $1000 downpayment

- $1000 donwpayment received on January

- Job was done in January  and the customer pay later on February. 30 day balance due.

-Final $4000 payment was received on  February.

 

Actual behaivor using the Profit and Loss report using the Cash method

 JanuaryFebruaryTotal
Invoice A50015002000
Invoice B100040005000
Total150055007000

 

But from my point of view it is not real and what i would like to see is:

 January February Total
Invoice A 20002000
Invoice B5000 5000
Total500020007000

Why ?

The invoice A was a job done and complete on February so I dont want to see it on January becuase the $500 downpayment is a money that is not mine until i complete the job and can be refund is the job is canceled.

The invoice B was a job done in January and it should appears on February becuase was really completed on January just got a final payment delay.

 

I sincerally hope that your team can show a way to do this. I have trying for weeks and i have not be able to find any information about how to do it. I pay my team depending of my net earning and every week is a headache do it manual.

Thank you in advance.

Rainflurry
November 11, 2024

@xhandllc 

 

"I just wanna know if its possible to get the information in the way i see it right."

 

Your accounting method is determined by what method was selected when the business filed its first tax return.  You can't just decide to record income based on what you think it should be, you need to record based on what election was filed with the IRS.  If you wish to change it, you can file a Form 3115 with the IRS.  

 

Your point of view aligns with the accrual method of accounting.  If you're on accrual basis, then, yes, you should have $5K in Jan. income and $2K in Feb. income because, on accrual basis, you record income when it is earned.  In your example, you have $5K earned in Jan. and $2K earned in Feb. 

 

If you're on cash basis, income is recorded when cash is received so the down payments are income when received regardless of when the work is completed.  The way QB is handling those transaction is correct on cash basis.  You received $1,500 in down payments in January, hence you have $1,500 in income in January.  You received $5,500 in payments in February, hence you have $5,500 in income in February.

 

 

 

 

 

 

November 10, 2024

I know a way to show your transactions according to your preference in the profit and loss report, @xhandllc. Let's work on this together so we can start recording them properly.

 

The reasons why reports display the amounts paid to the invoices on separate months are due to the following:

 

  • The deposit amount was posted together with the invoice transaction created in January.
  • The remaining balance was recorded as payment in February.

 

Since the Cash basis accounting method records income at the time you receive the payment, this explains why the deposit shows in January as this is considered income upon the creation of the transaction. You mentioned that the $500 downpayment is money that isn't yours yet until completing the job. Thus, we could have created a retainer deposit instead of including this within the invoice. 

 

Retainer deposit increases the amount in your liability account to show that the money isn't yours yet, and to avoid treating it as income until later.

 

To begin, let's create the retainer deposit entry by creating a liability account first:

 

  1. Go to the Gear icon and select Chart of Accounts (COA).
  2. Hit the New button to create one.
  3. Enter an Account Name, and select Current Liabilities for the Account Type.
  4. In the Detail Type dropdown, choose Trust Account-Liabilities.
  5. Enter the Opening Balance and the as of date. Then, click Save.

 

Then, we'll have to create a retainer item to enter this in receiving the deposit:

 

  1. Go back to the Gear icon and select Product & Services.
  2. Click the New button, and select Service as the product type.
  3. Enter a Name to easily identify it for your prepayment transactions.
  4. Select Liability account under the Income account dropdown.
  5. Then, select Save and Close.

 

If you need to separate the prepayments or deposits in a trust account, you can create a separate bank account which is a trust liability account. You can refer to Step 3: Create a trust liability bank account in this article: Record a retainer or deposit.

 

After that,  let's create a sales receipt for the retainer transaction amounting to $500 dated January to recognize the deposit amount. 

 

Then, edit the invoice you have created and remove the deposit at the bottom of the transaction. Add the retainer item as another line item in negative amounting to $500 to diminish the amount deposited by your client. I added snapshots below for your visual reference:

 

Lastly, receive the payment dated February to record this in QuickBooks and keep your financial data accurate.

 

Furthermore, you can export your reports to get a copy of them or use them outside QuickBooks. You can refer to the complete guidelines in this article: Export your reports to Excel from QuickBooks Online

 

Let me know if you need additional help managing your reports or even transactions from your company file, @xhandllc. I'm always around to lend a hand for help. Have a good one!